What
were you listening to while making this album? What images and sounds
inspired it?We
toured with a band from India called The
Rajasthan Roots.
We recorded some bits of songs on the side of the road which later
made it onto the record. We are inspired by eastern music of all
kinds. We have been listening to Koto music recently. I find it
haunting and unpredictable, at least to my ears. I recently worked on
a dance/video project with dancer Biño Sauitzvy to a piece of
Koto music I found, we shot everything outside in the winter light.
What
drew you aesthetically to work with Valgeir
Sigurðsson?
What is it like to work alongside him?We
find a kind of kinship with his harmonious relationship to technology
and nature. This we explore together in the studio.
Obviously
the two of you have vastly different sounds that converge in all of
these songs. What prompts each of you to approach music like this and
how do you combine these elements during the songwriting process?We
experiment a lot. There is a lot of playing around, being silly, and
then suddenly it gets very serious. We never know when we will hit
that point though. We take turns, send the other one into the
kitchen, we are terrible gluttons, especially for tea parties. We
drink so much tea when we are working, it’s really a drug. Creating
music is always a searching for us, a kind of hunt, but we never know
what it is we are hunting, we hunt with out eyes closed, smelling in
the darkness.
There’s
an overwhelming sense of sadness in a lot of your music. What
specifically compels you to tackle such difficult, sometimes
traumatic issues? What experiences from your past draw you to this
subject matter?Pain can be a source of beauty, and of course
the pain transforms when it’s let out of its hiding place and it’s
allowed to take new shapes in sound and word. I feel the pain in our
music is in the state of transformation when it’s being recorded.
What you hear is not a silenced pain, ashamed of itself, but one
which is curious about the light, pushing toward the surface,
beginning to flower before our very eyes. It feels healing.
The
song “Gravediggress” has a long story and mythology behind it.
Are all the songs on the album accompanied by such tales and do
you craft these larger stories while writing the songs?This
album in particular is more narrative. There are poetic songs from
the previous album, which I find impossible to talk about, windy
poetry I can’t explain. This new body of songs were being written
over some time in the form of stories, not necessarily stories with a
beginning, middle and end, but still stories where you could identify
the character and the landscape or realm in which she dwelt.
What
distinguishes this new album from the rest of your work? Why is it
important now?This record is far more dedicated to the human
condition; it is compassionate and reaches some moments of hope. We
look towards the earth, away from the sky and we search for solutions
and utopic projections for the future.
How
do you balance funneling artistic visions through endeavors like
visual works and fashion as opposed to music? What drives you to seek
these other avenues?In art for instance, visual art, I feel
like I can delve into very different issues which language and music
cannot handle. The subject of race has become so stifled by language
and I tend to deal a lot with race in my visual art. In visual art
there is a world of symbols which you cannot write about or sing
about, at least not so blatantly although we do sing about symbols.
We love crossing over into different worlds when we work, going from
one artistic platform to the next teaching us many things and we
discover more about the content of the work.
You
are adamant about feminism and the rights of women. What do you
perceive is the biggest threat to the freedom of women worldwide? Do
you view yourself as a voice of change when you target these
issues?Right now I am just asking a lot of questions. I know
that feminism needs to be free to be modular and constantly
transforming and certainly one of the biggest threats to feminism is
women truing on each other within the dogmas of feminism. The
question of “universal feminism” seems to be the big issue right
now. Many people are saying you can’t set a standard of women’s
right’s which is the same everywhere, we have to tailor it to each
specific cultural atmosphere. It feels paradoxical to lower our
standards of treatment towards women depending on the place. Women
should be able to drive! Everywhere! If a woman is not allowed to
drive, is she not a prisoner?
Some
of your songs address the issues of parenthood and the abandonment of
children. How did your parents shape your existence?That’s
a long question and answer which we are looking at most of the time.
At a certain age we like to imagine that we were not shaped by our
parents and their mental ailments, but alas, we have run into the
inevitable doom of the contours of trauma. It’s a rich place to
draw from if you can brave it. We believe wholeheartedly in
self-healing at a very aggressive level. I dance like my father. I
have my mother’s feet and lust for working. They have given us a
wide spectrum of qualities both dark and light. The creative
sanctuary that we were forced to retreat to is now our best tool and
it clearly serves our work.
Is
there a genre of music that doesn’t appeal to either of you? Or one
that you wouldn’t attempt to work within?That’s
easy ROCK. But funnily enough, the Blues Rock that we were subjected
to loudly for many hours has made its way deep into our sense of
rhythm and writing.
What
has Native American culture meant to your music? Have you seen the
influence of it change over this past decade?We went to many
Pow Wows and sang a lot with drums at home. This has to be in there
somewhere.
If
you went back to high school and graduated, what superlatives would
each of you win and why?I hate school, it’s a nightmare.
When I first learned that I could just walk my little body out the
front door and down the street, there was no turning back. It felt
like working in a bank. I never worked in a bank but it has the same
atmosphere. Now hearing about girls that get shot trying to stand up
for their right to go to school, I feel a bit ashamed, perhaps I took
my education for granted, or maybe I just wasn’t mean to go to
school.
You
have addressed your sexuality publicly before. How important is
sexuality in both of your lives? Do you see differences in acceptance
in sexuality in other countries vs. the United States?More
and more I am just dealing with being a woman. The sex part isn’t
that interesting to discuss. I had several gender crisis’, and
looking back it feels all due to misogynist expectations of what
femininity is suppose to look like. Right now I am learning to own
and express the feminine.
What
do you think of the current political climate towards gay marriage
and rights?Religion is the problem in the center of so many
social issues. People should marry whom ever they want. Personally I
don’t really like the idea of marriage, I guess because it’s so
heavily steeped in religion.
You
place a high premium on visual presentation. What has recently
inspired you the most visually and how have you incorporated it into
performance and appearance?Scarecrows! And yes. Walking in
nature at the right time of day always takes my breath away. The sky
is the most stunning painting, the gradual and sudden fade of hues, I
write about it constantly as pedestrian as it may sound, it sparks
something in me every time.
If
you could go back and change one thing about this album, what would
it be and why?I haven’t thought about that. I guess that’s
a good thing.
You
brought up a thought-provoking question via twitter that
I have wondered before: How does one separate femininity and
feminism?This
question came from an interview I did where a journalist said “I
prefer the femininity in your record rather than the feminism.”
Not only did this statement reek of misogyny but it felt like a huge
contradiction and illustrated a confused society on the subject of
feminism. I have been searching for clues on how to restore
femininity into feminism. It’s practically the same word. Also
something I wondered, if feminism is not feminine than what is it?
Masculine?
If
you could impart wisdom upon a future generation of women, what would
you tell them? How do you view the world changing for women in the
near future?That’s heavy. I do not know. I hope all women
can wake up and get out of the sleepy syndrome of servitude
volunteer. We do not regret that which we have never had. Freedom.
Women, you cannot trust your own instincts which have been bread
within the confines of slavery.
Where
do you see yourselves in five years?Moving, working, dancing
with children.
A Look at Bianca
Casady’s “Daisy Chain”
Three
tall black garbage bags at the entrance of the Cheim
& Read gallery
are full of dying plants, their once lush, green stems withered and
dried to a crisp, their once blooming yellow flowers now brown and
crunchy like old potato chips. I can’t help but notice the
resemblance they bear to the drawings, collages, and multimedia
installations on view—brown, scratchy lines etched into clean white
backdrops, watercolors purposely limp after bleeding dry with time,
found objects and photographs blending each other into a new state of
disrepair. Together they form the images of sexualized, deconstructed
and reconstructed prison life that make up Bianca Casady’s somewhat
darkly titled “Daisy
Chain” exhibition,
on view until September 8.
The
artist, who is also one half of the neo-folk duo CocoRosie,
was inspired by “common wild flowers and weeds, things that bloom
out of brokenness, un-nurtured, unwanted, looked down upon,
villainized,” she said in an email. “The book Our
Lady of the Flowers by Jean
Genetprovided
a vocabulary for this work, a highly sexualized, utopic depiction of
prison life.”
A
tribal tattoo turns the torso of a black man wearing a do-rag into a
body of thorns, a blue-green watercolor rose covering his heart, its
helplessly fallen petals covering his pelvis.
One
young black man in a do-rag masturbates under a bright yet dripping
and mournful watercolor rainbow while one more man prepares to enter
another, a scene somehow made darker by the addition of glittery
butterfly and flower stickers.
A
dissembled dresser, its drawers repurposed into display tables with
new, foreign legs, display the broken leavings of characters we will
never meet—belonging to an abused Cinderella are a broken mirror, a
distended yellow braid, a rotted and corpselike shoe; the dirty
wreckage of a red rubber nose, a graying and disintegrated pair of
men’s briefs, and a bone crudely etched with the word ‘NAPSACK’
belonging to a decomposing clown.
Watercolored
and collaged men stand with their hands poised in self-pleasure, only
to have their fists instead full of florals, withered and weed-like,
or lush and blooming. Some of them are drawn with long, blonde braids
or lipstick, or outfitted with photographs of burqas and corsets,
purposely affixed with crude glues and tapes that magnify their
absurd yet unsettling nature. “I use collage mainly as a tool to
recontextualize characters,” Casady said, “making innocent the
criminal, and deviant the saint.”
“Mostly
I was transforming images,” she continues. “Transforming gender,
race, replacing phallus with flower. Also there was a continuous
reprocessing and destroying of certain images which I reworked
throughout the last year, certain faces which play a large narrative
role underwent major surgeries and morphed all along the way, also
passing from one medium to the next, as well as one era to the next.”
Part
of this transformation is Casady’s repeated theme of ‘Harmless
Monsters,’ the idea that we’ve actually created our own
‘monsters.’ “Some monsters have been molded for thousands of
years and they become invisible and you can’t even address the
problem without using some kind of subversive persuasion,” she
says. With “Daisy Chain,” though, Casady draws our attention to
the mess our societal neglect has made in “some terrible struggle
for power,” as she says, not just within the prison system but
within race and gender.
“Daisy
Chain” is Casady’s first New York exhibition in five years. She
has also exhibited at galleries and festivals in Milan, Tokyo, and
Marrakech, as well as Art Basel. Of her work with CocoRosie, Casady
says “it’s all the same stuff. Our new songs embody the same
ideas. The two worlds, though not separate, feed each other.” This
is especially evident with CocoRosie’s song “Jesus
Loves Me”,
from 2004’s La
Maison de Mon Rêve,
a commentary on hopelessness which is done in the style of old
spirituals, accent and all. Similarly, in “Daisy Chain,” the
following lyrics appear, etched on browned paper toward the beginning
of the exhibition: “We’re all in line/4 the daisy chain/Jingle
jangle/We’re all doin’ time/On the inside of our minds.” The
hopelessness carries over; we still have no solution.
CocoRosie’s
Predictably Arcane in Visual for “We Are on Fire”
Perennial
weird sisters of experimental pop, CocoRosie, put out the single for
their Dave Sitek-produced track “We
Are on Fire” earlier
this week, and now we’re seeing a visual for it. It’s safe to say
that any CocoRosie video is going to aim to be more than a little
dark and otherworldly, since that’s pretty much the group’s whole
pedigree, and this clip definitely doesn’t flout that. The Emma
Freeman-directed video mostly features slo-mo shots of figures
contorting in the air in slow motion, throwing around flour and such,
and just seeming appropriately esoteric; of course, they throw in a
shot of CocoRosie sister Sierra Casady being burned at the stake
’cause, you know, this is still a CocoRosie video, and the whole
thing is bookended by a mysterious figure reappearing and
disappearing on a beach. No one would claim that a high-definition
video in slow motion is reinventing the wheel, but it’s a still a
lovely visual all the same.
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